[11/01/06 07:34] *** You have joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 07:34] *** Users on #foswiki-assembly: uebera|| @Lavr [11/01/06 07:34] *** #foswiki-assembly was created on Donnerstag 2011/01/06 00:17:24 [11/01/06 07:34] *** #foswiki-assembly modes: +nst [11/01/06 07:34] *** #foswiki-assembly was created on Donnerstag 2011/01/06 00:17:24 [11/01/06 07:35] ERC> /names [11/01/06 07:35] *** Users on #foswiki-assembly: uebera|| @Lavr [11/01/06 07:35] Hi there. :) [11/01/06 08:04] *** SvenDowideit (~SvenDowid@foswiki/developer/SvenDowideit) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 08:32] *** MichaelDaum (~micha@foswiki/developer/MichaelDaum) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 08:40] *** Lavr (~Lavr@foswiki/developer/Lavr) has changed mode for #foswiki-assembly to +o MichaelDaum [11/01/06 08:40] *** Lavr (~Lavr@foswiki/developer/Lavr) has changed mode for #foswiki-assembly to +o SvenDowideit [11/01/06 08:40] *** Lavr (~Lavr@foswiki/developer/Lavr) has changed mode for #foswiki-assembly to +o uebera|| [11/01/06 08:41] *** MichaelDaum (~micha@foswiki/developer/MichaelDaum) is now known as MichaelDaum_ [11/01/06 09:15] *** NynkeFokma (~nynke@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 09:15] Good morning :) [11/01/06 10:02] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@foswiki/developer/ok) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 10:46] *** uebera||-mobil (578b847a@gateway/web/freenode/***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 10:47] Hi, feel free to retweet http://twitter.com/#!/m_ueberall/status/22950446662426624 and/or open an event and post a short message about this meeting on XING (I'm too busy to do this myself right now, unfortunately--might be a good opportunity to "revive" discussions on XING). CU tonight! :) [11/01/06 10:47] *** uebera||-mobil (578b847a@gateway/web/freenode/***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 10:49] Retweeted [11/01/06 10:56] me2 [11/01/06 13:42] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@foswiki/developer/ok) has quit: Remote host closed the connection [11/01/06 15:06] *** NynkeFokma (~nynke@***) has quit: Ping timeout: 276 seconds [11/01/06 16:49] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 16:49] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@***) has quit: Changing host [11/01/06 16:49] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@foswiki/developer/ok) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 17:12] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@foswiki/developer/ok) has quit: Remote host closed the connection [11/01/06 18:30] *** CDot (~crawford@foswiki/developer/cdot) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 18:31] CDot according to the rules either you or I lead the meeting. I have prepared the agenda and how to proceed. I can lead the meeting if OK with you. [11/01/06 18:31] by all means. I was planning to simply follow the agenda. [11/01/06 18:32] I don't see much there requiring a lot of discussion, personally. [11/01/06 18:33] No. Exactly. But it can become a tea club and drag forever if not prepared. I have gone through the proposals and prepared where we can "clap the hands unless objection" and where we need discussion and vote/clap. [11/01/06 18:34] The only thing is election of board members. 3 candidates and 2 positions. Votes for people should be "anonymous" so I will suggest that I cheat start the board election from the start so people can email their votes to the two vote counters and when we get to the point we have the count. [11/01/06 18:34] Trying to keep it below 1 hour. [11/01/06 18:37] I removed the decision on the 6 deferred applications from 2008. According to our articles they must have two supporters and they have none so I have removed that point. [11/01/06 18:40] That's fine. If they really want to join, they will find supporters. [11/01/06 18:40] They were told what the constraints were at the time. [11/01/06 18:40] Yes. And plenty of time. And I personally do not know any of them anyway. [11/01/06 18:41] Do we have identified vote counters? It would help if we had that before we start. [11/01/06 18:42] I will setup the conference bridge around 10 minutes before the meeting and I hope it works out. We have had some trouble with audio quality the past days in some meetings so I hope it will be OK. I will check with a mobile that at least my audio can be understood easily. [11/01/06 18:42] ok, great [11/01/06 18:42] See you in a little more than 2 hours. [11/01/06 18:42] yo. /me goes to eat [11/01/06 18:42] me to [11/01/06 18:42] o [11/01/06 19:16] *** wbniv (~wbniv@foswiki/developer/WillNorris) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 19:33] what's happening? [11/01/06 19:48] *** MartinRowe (~MartinRow@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 19:55] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 19:56] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@***) has quit: Changing host [11/01/06 19:56] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@foswiki/developer/ok) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 19:57] Hi there. [11/01/06 19:58] Hi there, Oliver. :) [11/01/06 19:58] * uebera|| -> dinner [11/01/06 20:00] *** MichaelDaum_ (~micha@foswiki/developer/MichaelDaum) is now known as MichaelDaum [11/01/06 20:01] anybody on the confi bridge already? [11/01/06 20:03] *** MartinRaabe (~innop2@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 20:03] Hallo zusammen [11/01/06 20:03] MichaelDaum: Lavr said he's going to start 10min beforehand. [11/01/06 20:04] k [11/01/06 20:05] 1 hr left. [11/01/06 20:07] "None of the 5 people deferred last year have been supported and will not be inducted." [11/01/06 20:07] i "know" JasonMeadows [11/01/06 20:08] er, JustinMeadows [11/01/06 20:08] Marty made a donation prior to the last assembly. [11/01/06 20:09] Oh, 8 pm GMT, I see... [11/01/06 20:09] *** MartinRaabe (~innop2@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 20:21] *** ingo (~ingo@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 20:22] *** ingo (~ingo@***) is now known as IngoWolf [11/01/06 20:22] hi [11/01/06 20:22] is the phone conference working? [11/01/06 20:22] not yet, I guess. [11/01/06 20:22] 38mins left. [11/01/06 20:22] ah GMT !!! [11/01/06 20:22] *** StephaneLenclud (~sl@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 20:23] ok, then I have time to bring my little toddler to bed ;-) [11/01/06 20:23] * IngoWolf back at 20:00 GMT [11/01/06 20:32] *** MTempest (~chatzilla@foswiki/developer/mtempest) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 20:42] Am I blind or is there no explanation exactly _how_ one can join the OIN which by itself is a Limited Liability Company? Even if this is a dumb question, I don't know: Is an incorporated society allowed to join a company in the first place? [11/01/06 20:42] s /society/association/ [11/01/06 20:53] the leader has not yet arrived... [11/01/06 20:53] uebera||: you don't "join" so much as agree to a non-assertion pact, as I understand it [11/01/06 20:53] I see. That should be possible, then. :) [11/01/06 20:54] given that a number of other foundations are already members, i don't see a problem with it [11/01/06 20:54] though I haven't read all the paperwork in detail yet [11/01/06 20:55] where's my leader [11/01/06 20:55] nice music. [11/01/06 20:58] Looks like I/my phone has problems to send the PIN code followed by the hash sign... :() [11/01/06 20:59] try smoke signals. [11/01/06 20:59] Yay! [11/01/06 21:00] I'm in in muted mode. [11/01/06 21:00] Must have been a bad connection. [11/01/06 21:00] what do we press to kill da music? [11/01/06 21:00] Let me see what I can do [11/01/06 21:00] *** gmc (~gmc@freenode/sponsor/gmc) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:00] You could mute your speaker :p [11/01/06 21:00] any keystroke we all can press? [11/01/06 21:01] To mute your line on the conf bridge instead of on the phone press *6 [11/01/06 21:01] uebera||: I'm using a headset; I'd have to cut my ear off :-( [11/01/06 21:01] Darth Vader? [11/01/06 21:01] To unmute #6 [11/01/06 21:01] *** leik (~lek@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:02] how to re-mute yourself again? #6 again? [11/01/06 21:02] *** Babar (babar@foswiki/developer/babar) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:02] I hear loud and clear [11/01/06 21:02] *** MartinRaabe (~innop2@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:02] *** andreli (~chatzilla@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:03] uebera||: *6 to mute yourself again [11/01/06 21:03] *** ArthurClemens (~arthur@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:03] still music? [11/01/06 21:03] uebera||: thanks to update the minutes with the right channel name :) [11/01/06 21:03] nope [11/01/06 21:03] *** FranzJosefGigler (2e4a6449@gateway/web/freenode/***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:03] no [11/01/06 21:03] yw ;) [11/01/06 21:04] ()But I didn't do it...) [11/01/06 21:04] *** pharvey (~csirac@foswiki/developer/pharvey) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:04] *** NynkeFokma (~nynke@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:05] uebera||: I said thanks *to*, not thanks *for* :p [11/01/06 21:05] *** tsnfoo (~tsnfoo@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:05] *** MartinCleaver (~martincle@foswiki/developer/MartinCleaver) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:05] hello [11/01/06 21:05] I understood it the wrong way round, I guess, then... [11/01/06 21:05] Hi, LarsEik here :) [11/01/06 21:06] yes [11/01/06 21:06] *** IngoK (~chatzilla@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:06] * OliverKrueger has three heads today: Im AndreU and EugenMayer, too. [11/01/06 21:06] lol [11/01/06 21:06] I"m hearing a bit of any echo... [11/01/06 21:06] I'm Nynke Fokma [11/01/06 21:07] OliverKrueger: you look much better than Eugene :) [11/01/06 21:07] OliverKrueger, thats one more than zapod b. [11/01/06 21:07] I can't hear the cll too well [11/01/06 21:07] call* [11/01/06 21:07] tsnfoo: I have the echo too [11/01/06 21:07] I can hardly understand Lavr. [11/01/06 21:07] that's Lavr? [11/01/06 21:08] tsnfoo == AaronFuleki [11/01/06 21:08] echo hear too, but understandably [11/01/06 21:08] Has everybody muted his phone so far? (Except the speakers, certainly) [11/01/06 21:08] * Babar muted his phone and his call :) [11/01/06 21:09] *** bthale (90bc181a@gateway/web/freenode/***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:09] alotta echo [11/01/06 21:09] Echo echo echo... [11/01/06 21:09] * Babar has no echo [11/01/06 21:09] Who is being asked about? [11/01/06 21:09] yeah, that bit I didn't get [11/01/06 21:09] how can i mute? [11/01/06 21:09] FranzJosefGigler: *6 [11/01/06 21:09] *6 [11/01/06 21:10] Can't hear it [11/01/06 21:10] thanks martin [11/01/06 21:10] np FranzJosef :p [11/01/06 21:10] how to unmute if necessary [11/01/06 21:11] FranzJosefGigler: #6 [11/01/06 21:11] next time, listen to the voice when you join the call :) [11/01/06 21:11] okay, babar, thanks [11/01/06 21:11] * pharvey still trying to make coffee :P [11/01/06 21:11] echo gone? [11/01/06 21:11] The echo is much better for me; someone must have muted. [11/01/06 21:11] Coffee? Good idea! [11/01/06 21:12] MartinCleaver: are you on the call? [11/01/06 21:12] * Babar was about to have diner... I guess I can, should be finished before you guys sort out who's on the call, and who's muted :) [11/01/06 21:13] am not on the cal, no [11/01/06 21:13] just a note from my side: i had a last minute cancellation for a 23:00 radio show, meaning that i have to step in [11/01/06 21:13] MartinCleaver: what are you waiting for? Xmas? :) [11/01/06 21:14] gmc: designate someone to vote for you when you leave :) [11/01/06 21:14] * MartinCleaver looks for invite [11/01/06 21:14] Can do [11/01/06 21:14] if you didn't get Lavr's mail today, then there is something fishy :) [11/01/06 21:14] I can count [11/01/06 21:15] ok for me too [11/01/06 21:15] I can do too [11/01/06 21:15] ah [11/01/06 21:15] oh y, have been away for a bit - am not in the association [11/01/06 21:15] Sven \o/ [11/01/06 21:15] Are the new members also voters? [11/01/06 21:15] not yet, Martin :) [11/01/06 21:15] [EMAIL1] should do [11/01/06 21:16] hallo :/ child troubles [11/01/06 21:16] Excellent, good to know, Couldn't find a written rule. [11/01/06 21:16] after the new members are accepted, they can vote [11/01/06 21:16] [EMAIL2] [11/01/06 21:17] * pharvey driving to work (not driving) in a few minutes, email isn't practical atm [11/01/06 21:17] *** terceiro (~terceiro@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:17] s/practical/reliable :) [11/01/06 21:18] Are votes to be sent to both counters? I guess. [11/01/06 21:18] Excellent! [11/01/06 21:18] * MichaelDaum claps his hands [11/01/06 21:18] just on irc! [11/01/06 21:18] clap :) [11/01/06 21:18] clap [11/01/06 21:18] clap clap [11/01/06 21:18] * pharvey claps [11/01/06 21:18] * gmc claps [11/01/06 21:18] clap [11/01/06 21:18] clap [11/01/06 21:18] clap [11/01/06 21:18] clap [11/01/06 21:18] clap [11/01/06 21:18] * uebera|| claps [11/01/06 21:18] hello there. Do you have logs being saved anywhere? [11/01/06 21:18] clap [11/01/06 21:18] what a welcome :) [11/01/06 21:19] clap [11/01/06 21:19] hehe [11/01/06 21:19] clap [11/01/06 21:19] Thank You for the honor! [11/01/06 21:19] clap [11/01/06 21:19] Yay! [11/01/06 21:19] Puh, we made it. [11/01/06 21:19] woot! [11/01/06 21:19] * Babar claps [11/01/06 21:19] terceiro: I guess we can put it only afterwards, I'm not aware of a live log atm... [11/01/06 21:20] s /only/online/ [11/01/06 21:20] i'm logging, always [11/01/06 21:20] me too, but only I can read it. [11/01/06 21:20] ok [11/01/06 21:20] Lavr: Can I get a list of vaild members to receive e-mail from. [11/01/06 21:21] and? [11/01/06 21:21] http://foswiki.org/Community/CurrentFoswikiMembers [11/01/06 21:22] Everyone is supposed to vote for 2 board members right? [11/01/06 21:22] So we vote for stepping to non-profit via email? [11/01/06 21:22] Two names per e-mail or did I get that wrong? [11/01/06 21:23] No Question [11/01/06 21:23] I'm ok with clapping [11/01/06 21:23] claps [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] clap :) [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] claps [11/01/06 21:23] claps are OK [11/01/06 21:23] Clap [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] * uebera|| claps [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] clap [11/01/06 21:23] * gmc claps [11/01/06 21:23] claps [11/01/06 21:24] clap [11/01/06 21:24] * uebera|| knocking on the table with his clapping hands... :p [11/01/06 21:24] * IngoWolf wishes business meetings would be so easy [11/01/06 21:24] uhm.. pardon me for being stupid [11/01/06 21:24] are we now voting for the board members?? [11/01/06 21:24] no? [11/01/06 21:25] yes we are, afaik [11/01/06 21:25] are the counters voting too? [11/01/06 21:25] so i send an email with two names to both the counters/ [11/01/06 21:25] ? [11/01/06 21:25] yes [11/01/06 21:25] i did that [11/01/06 21:25] sure [11/01/06 21:25] * Babar seconds gmc... what are we supposed to be doing? send an email with 2 names out oh Micha, Michael and Sven to StephaneLenclud and OliverKrueger? [11/01/06 21:26] [EMAIL1], [EMAIL2] [11/01/06 21:26] yup [11/01/06 21:26] right, andreli, not Oliver [11/01/06 21:26] Done [11/01/06 21:27] Done [11/01/06 21:27] done, done, done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:27] done [11/01/06 21:28] antonio terceiro [11/01/06 21:28] hi antonio [11/01/06 21:28] Antonio Terceiro [11/01/06 21:28] hey there :) [11/01/06 21:29] done [11/01/06 21:29] 16 done, 9 to go [11/01/06 21:29] My message came returned. One moment [11/01/06 21:29] [EMAIL1], [EMAIL2] [11/01/06 21:31] done [11/01/06 21:31] done [11/01/06 21:31] I keep getting mail delivery failed [11/01/06 21:31] I got 21 emails so far. Call when I shall start counting votes [11/01/06 21:31] done [11/01/06 21:31] Private message? [11/01/06 21:31] sure [11/01/06 21:31] .. using /query nickname [11/01/06 21:31] you can /query andreli and StephaneLenclud [11/01/06 21:31] it's supposed to be private :) [11/01/06 21:32] I sent it to andre [11/01/06 21:32] who else? [11/01/06 21:32] andreli: when you reach 24, start counting [11/01/06 21:32] :-) [11/01/06 21:32] NynkeFokma: StephaneLenclud [11/01/06 21:32] NynkeFokma: IngoK [11/01/06 21:32] CDot: how can he reah 24 without counting? :) [11/01/06 21:32] oops, no [11/01/06 21:32] done [11/01/06 21:32] skip the viagra votes [11/01/06 21:32] done, if andre and stephane have received. [11/01/06 21:33] 25 / 39, impressive [11/01/06 21:33] 25*2 votes [11/01/06 21:33] 25+3 [11/01/06 21:33] 25-3 :) [11/01/06 21:34] I have 22 emails [11/01/06 21:34] we 24+3. We have one illegal alien. [11/01/06 21:34] Ah 22+3=25 :) [11/01/06 21:34] :-) [11/01/06 21:34] my email has 3*2 votes in it [11/01/06 21:34] Fat mail [11/01/06 21:35] are the vote counters aware of the irc nick -> realname table? [11/01/06 21:35] lets start a discussion. ;) [11/01/06 21:35] hope you don't have to normalize names too much [11/01/06 21:35] Micha and MT :) [11/01/06 21:36] Babar: we don't you add a truth table to the member list: :-) [11/01/06 21:37] tsnfoo: because Markus is editing it :) [11/01/06 21:37] ugh... [11/01/06 21:37] I'm not editing anything atm. [11/01/06 21:38] was kidding... waiting for the results [11/01/06 21:38] * MartinCleaver sulks [11/01/06 21:38] can we do a la Cote d'Ivoire? And have all 3 elected for 2 spot? [11/01/06 21:38] still counting... [11/01/06 21:38] my email just went out [11/01/06 21:38] (i hope) [11/01/06 21:39] MartinCleaver: did you want to be written in as a prospective member? You had voices of support already..... [11/01/06 21:39] did we clap for martin already? [11/01/06 21:39] I don't believe so [11/01/06 21:39] sure, yes please [11/01/06 21:39] * Babar claps [11/01/06 21:40] boooo(m) clap? [11/01/06 21:40] Thanks ;) [11/01/06 21:40] * uebera|| claps as well [11/01/06 21:40] save that for after the finance chat [11/01/06 21:40] clap [11/01/06 21:40] clap [11/01/06 21:41] clap [11/01/06 21:41] clap clap, even ;p [11/01/06 21:42] * MartinCleaver can't believe this is 2011... I remember 2001 TWiki days [11/01/06 21:43] scary [11/01/06 21:43] heh [11/01/06 21:43] * MartinCleaver has grey hair. [11/01/06 21:43] * CDot has no hair [11/01/06 21:44] * SvenDowideit had a haircut [11/01/06 21:44] MartinCleaver ya, 1999 twiki development - was much fun [11/01/06 21:44] André Lichtsteiner you voted twice [11/01/06 21:44] I dont find the paypal account for the foundation [11/01/06 21:44] I'll take only one into account :) [11/01/06 21:45] or did I get that wrong? [11/01/06 21:45] IngoWolf: it's the one of OliverKrueger [11/01/06 21:45] I think he never managed to setup one for the association (yet) [11/01/06 21:46] could you post it, please [11/01/06 21:47] IngoWolf: I'm sure Oliver will post it to you soon. No hurry to pay the membership fees though, so no need to rush [11/01/06 21:48] http://foswiki.org/Community/FinancialStatement2010 gives two different balances for the paypal account: 839.06 and 829.60 [11/01/06 21:49] *** pharvey_ (~csirac@***) has joined channel #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 21:52] * Babar thinks something happens in the confcall... can't recognise any of the voices from Berlin. Ok, it was 2.5 years ago, but still [11/01/06 21:52] *** pharvey (~csirac@foswiki/developer/pharvey) has quit: Ping timeout: 265 seconds [11/01/06 21:52] *** pharvey_ (~csirac@***) is now known as pharvey [11/01/06 21:52] http://foswiki.org/pub/Community/AgendaSecondGeneralAssembly/paypal-statement.pdf [11/01/06 21:52] MTempest: I think the 0.6 and .60 could be a "spelling mistake" and then the 10 euro difference is that money that's underway from Oliver's account. [11/01/06 21:53] .06 and .60 I mean [11/01/06 21:53] there's no current total on the pdf [11/01/06 21:54] ok, everyone is talking at the same time [11/01/06 21:54] i'm back in 10 minutes [11/01/06 21:54] Yes. OliverKrueger - can you confirm that the .06 and .60 difference is a typo? [11/01/06 21:54] Coffee time! [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] * tsnfoo clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] no objection / clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap [11/01/06 21:55] clap for mc [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap - welcome :) [11/01/06 21:56] ok back.. sorry about this, need to start in some radi oplaybacks and all [11/01/06 21:56] MTempest: I will check that afterwards. [11/01/06 21:56] fucking flu has me working triple time [11/01/06 21:56] Is someone sending the call details to him? [11/01/06 21:56] OliverKrueger: thanks [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:56] clap [11/01/06 21:57] clap [11/01/06 21:57] clap [11/01/06 21:57] clap [11/01/06 21:57] (what are we clapping for? Financial audit?) [11/01/06 21:57] yep, thx [11/01/06 21:57] clap [11/01/06 21:57] thanks for the taking care of the financial affairs [11/01/06 21:57] koen and ingo audit another year [11/01/06 21:57] gmc flu? we seem to have a variant of whooping cough - that hits people that are vaccinated :( [11/01/06 21:57] SvenDowideit: i dunno, everyone's sick all of a sudden, is all i know [11/01/06 21:57] i'm not a doctor really :) [11/01/06 21:57] swine [11/01/06 21:57] tis horrid [11/01/06 21:57] yes thankyou gmc a nd Ingo [11/01/06 21:57] i wish :) [11/01/06 21:58] related to official emails - we _could_ set up official @foswiki.org addresses [11/01/06 21:58] thanks gmc and Ingo for doing the most boring job ever (apart from writing documentation) [11/01/06 21:58] but this (i think) also should require community discussion and vote to implement [11/01/06 21:58] no not IngoWolf [11/01/06 21:59] it was Kenneth! [11/01/06 21:59] I don't think it's necessary [11/01/06 21:59] delete it [11/01/06 21:59] ditch it. [11/01/06 21:59] rm -f [11/01/06 21:59] BELETED, as homestar runner would say. [11/01/06 22:00] IngoK, is here on the irc [11/01/06 22:00] We're done then? [11/01/06 22:00] IngoK, are you on the phone call as well? [11/01/06 22:00] yes [11/01/06 22:00] --> http://foswiki.org/Community/ByLaws#Community_members_acting_on_beha [11/01/06 22:00] IngoK is IngoKappler [11/01/06 22:01] * Babar hates receving emails from //SEIBERT/MEDIA, but I really doubt putting such a restriction in the ByLaws is necessary. Plus nobody ever crossed the line, afaict [11/01/06 22:01] clap [11/01/06 22:01] We should only add these kind of rules if there is a problem, not in anticipation of a problem. [11/01/06 22:01] babar++ [11/01/06 22:01] it was probably suggested to avoid future issues [11/01/06 22:01] which is a reasonable idea [11/01/06 22:01] pharvey: I fully agree to such an aikido type stance [11/01/06 22:02] SvenDowideit: I'd rather kick out unreasonnable people, than limit it from the start. [11/01/06 22:02] Wait, we can't use custom signatures either? (looking at the by laws) [11/01/06 22:02] Babar i think i agree - except i am an unreasonable person :) [11/01/06 22:02] SvenDowideit: shhh [11/01/06 22:02] My signature has my university's name in it: would I have to remove that for all of my messages to the mailing lists? [11/01/06 22:03] tsnfoo: only when speaking on behalf of foswiki, right? [11/01/06 22:03] tsnfoo only if you're speaking for the association [11/01/06 22:03] tsnfoo: if you act on behalf of the community [11/01/06 22:03] got it. [11/01/06 22:03] We're done? [11/01/06 22:03] snap snap snap :) [11/01/06 22:03] isn't that 'innovation' ? [11/01/06 22:03] As I read it, only if your acting on behalf of Foswiki instead of yourself. [11/01/06 22:03] like, anybody speaking on behalf of the community, so usually kenneth or Micha, should use @foswiki.org emails rather than @motorolasolutions.com and @michaeldaumconsulting.com or whatever. And Motorola would even be allowed :) [11/01/06 22:03] What if they contacted you? [11/01/06 22:04] * SvenDowideit is surprised that no-one ever suggests & discusses creating @foswiki.org email addresses :} [11/01/06 22:04] NynkeFokma: if they contacted you, they didn't contact the foswiki association, so it doesn't apply, unless you really want to impersonate yourself to reply [11/01/06 22:05] SvenDowideit: want me to dig the logs when we asked you to? :) [11/01/06 22:05] SvenDowideit: I asked a few times for it [11/01/06 22:05] I read the OIN FAQ - it sounds good, and could be some PR. [11/01/06 22:05] Babar if its not in the GA agenda [11/01/06 22:05] it doesn't exist [11/01/06 22:05] but am happy about it, as i'd rather not deal with cutting off emails when a member stops being a member [11/01/06 22:05] join++ [11/01/06 22:05] I'm a great roleplayer! :) Jus kiddin'. But, the hypothetical case stands. What if someone contacts Michael on his business email address? [11/01/06 22:05] * Babar checks if he's in the GA agenda, otherwise he might disappear in a puff of smoke [11/01/06 22:05] join++ [11/01/06 22:05] If the OIN gets sued, is there a monetary risk for their members? [11/01/06 22:05] contacting third parties for marketing related stuff it totally makes sense to use a @foswiki.org email account. [11/01/06 22:05] join++ [11/01/06 22:06] join++ [11/01/06 22:06] join++ [11/01/06 22:06] OIN == limited - so no [11/01/06 22:06] MichaelDaum: agreed. But it's off topic here, so please let's stop this thread :) [11/01/06 22:06] join++ [11/01/06 22:06] join++ clap, clap [11/01/06 22:06] joinclap++ [11/01/06 22:06] No monetary risk => join [11/01/06 22:06] join++ if it doesn't cost much [11/01/06 22:06] clap [11/01/06 22:06] clap, join [11/01/06 22:06] join clap [11/01/06 22:06] join++ [11/01/06 22:06] clap [11/01/06 22:06] join [11/01/06 22:06] clap 3x [11/01/06 22:06] join [11/01/06 22:06] neutral [11/01/06 22:07] yup, /me trusts our financial duuudes to get it right [11/01/06 22:07] Breathe! [11/01/06 22:08] calm please [11/01/06 22:08] Andre? [11/01/06 22:08] i can accept several months [11/01/06 22:09] i _like_ it to be done properly [11/01/06 22:09] Why push the energy? No need to push. [11/01/06 22:09] yeah, I'd rather it be done properly than have Koen rush it through. There is no rush, is it? [11/01/06 22:09] Rite. [11/01/06 22:09] I also have no problem with delaying the task [11/01/06 22:09] we just need another kontoauszug right? [11/01/06 22:09] --join [11/01/06 22:10] wbniv: care to elaborate [11/01/06 22:10] we only need a decision on the GA .... not doing the actual work. so any decision on a timeline is okay. [11/01/06 22:10] as long as it is agreed by the GA [11/01/06 22:11] * IngoWolf seconds MD [11/01/06 22:11] I volunteer. [11/01/06 22:11] thanks [11/01/06 22:11] volunteer for what? Sorry, didn't really get it. [11/01/06 22:12] thanks Lars [11/01/06 22:12] ERC> /whois leik [11/01/06 22:12] *** leik is Lars Eik (~lek@***) [11/01/06 22:12] thx Lars [11/01/06 22:12] Babar: too many unknowns [11/01/06 22:12] sub for koen as 2010 auditor [11/01/06 22:12] yes, by this month. [11/01/06 22:12] i still dont get what the rush is and why we don't want to do this thoroughly and with due dilligence [11/01/06 22:12] we just voted to re-elect Koen, and now Lars is stepping in? [11/01/06 22:13] hum, can we move the financial closure to june? [11/01/06 22:13] I mean, Koen like anybody else is snowed under work in december / january [11/01/06 22:13] i had time in december actually, made time for this [11/01/06 22:13] but was missing input [11/01/06 22:13] Who decides what is "unresonable"? [11/01/06 22:15] but when was the input finished? [11/01/06 22:15] Hurray! [11/01/06 22:15] I'm counting 22 valid voting emails and Andre got 23 could voters double check if their email to me bounced? [11/01/06 22:16] Stephane, your email address bounced for me. I sent it by private message. [11/01/06 22:17] I see [11/01/06 22:17] unmuting [11/01/06 22:17] I'm cross checking [11/01/06 22:17] 1 minute [11/01/06 22:18] unmuting and muting takes too long with this conf bridge! plus it talks right throiugh the conversation [11/01/06 22:18] 10, 9, 8, ... ;-) [11/01/06 22:18] Lift-off!!! [11/01/06 22:18] i know but i don't hear you when i mute or unmute :) [11/01/06 22:18] Does your phone have a mute? [11/01/06 22:18] it works really when, so long as you don't say anything [11/01/06 22:19] Ok I think we have it now [11/01/06 22:19] maybe there's some way to make her shut up. Try *7 instead? [11/01/06 22:19] Andre I got the missing vote [11/01/06 22:19] hurray :-) [11/01/06 22:19] it's much better than other conf calls i've been on thoiugh :) [11/01/06 22:19] \o/ [11/01/06 22:19] Thanks to Motorola for sponsoring the conference call [11/01/06 22:19] Motorola Solutions :) [11/01/06 22:19] thx++ [11/01/06 22:19] yes thanks to kenneth [11/01/06 22:19] what do you solve? [11/01/06 22:19] problems :) [11/01/06 22:19] and when will it be delivered? ;p [11/01/06 22:20] motorolo [11/01/06 22:20] what's the other bit called? Motorola Insolvencies? >:-) [11/01/06 22:20] equations? [11/01/06 22:20] * pharvey recalls the freescale spinoff [11/01/06 22:20] I like the sound quality though someone beeps sometimes with dialpad [11/01/06 22:20] dmtf echos :-) [11/01/06 22:20] dtmf [11/01/06 22:20] CDot: Mobility! [11/01/06 22:20] Hey. We're debt free I'll have you know. ;-) [11/01/06 22:20] never read the news are you? [11/01/06 22:20] http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20110104/tc_zd/258740 [11/01/06 22:21] lol [11/01/06 22:21] nerd! [11/01/06 22:21] lol [11/01/06 22:21] Split? [11/01/06 22:21] Is Foswiki optimised for the iPhone/iPad already? ;) [11/01/06 22:22] ;-) [11/01/06 22:22] uebera||: yeah, StephaneLenclud made a skin for it :) [11/01/06 22:22] (before the iPad got out though...) [11/01/06 22:22] afaik you still cannot scroll in textboxes on edit. ,) [11/01/06 22:22] ipad ... isnt that this apple thing? [11/01/06 22:22] Galaxy Tab rules :) [11/01/06 22:22] ah ok. ;) [11/01/06 22:22] MichaelDaum: it's a new brand of baby nappy [11/01/06 22:22] MichaelDaum: it's the thing which runs Angry birds in HD version :) [11/01/06 22:22] 2 fingers? Nice. [11/01/06 22:22] I dodn't know that. [11/01/06 22:22] Don't Panic! And don't lose your towel ... [11/01/06 22:22] Ok, the votes are in [11/01/06 22:22] Babar what skin? - but I would love to use it on android [11/01/06 22:22] * uebera|| <- MS Courier lover (too bad it will never be produced) [11/01/06 22:23] IngoWolf: ask him :) [11/01/06 22:23] are we done? at work, got a meeting soon [11/01/06 22:23] pharvey: waiting for the votes [11/01/06 22:23] SvenDowideit: is this your kids on the phone? [11/01/06 22:23] yeah, vote results! [11/01/06 22:23] We can announce it [11/01/06 22:23] great [11/01/06 22:23] wait, voting? [11/01/06 22:23] is the fingers configurable for scrolling ... got some good spare finger for this crap [11/01/06 22:23] Andre you there? [11/01/06 22:23] MichaelDaum: 20 [11/01/06 22:23] SvenDowideit: 16 [11/01/06 22:23] MichaelTempest: 15 [11/01/06 22:24] close contest! [11/01/06 22:24] ah thankyou [11/01/06 22:24] can i re-vote for MTempest ? [11/01/06 22:24] congrats [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] * MTempest salutes Micha and Sven [11/01/06 22:24] congrats md and sd [11/01/06 22:24] congrats [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] Thank you all for being part in foswiki [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] congrats all [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] clapjoin++ [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] * uebera|| claps [11/01/06 22:24] claps [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:24] very close call [11/01/06 22:24] clap [11/01/06 22:25] Thank you all! [11/01/06 22:25] Thank you for guiding the meeting [11/01/06 22:25] Until next year then? [11/01/06 22:25] Thanks a lot to Kenneth for Organisation !!! [11/01/06 22:25] thanks [11/01/06 22:25] yeah, thank you :) [11/01/06 22:25] Yay for 1.1.3! [11/01/06 22:25] Koen, ik zie je spoedig. Kom langs in Den Haag. [11/01/06 22:25] bye [11/01/06 22:25] Thanks for organizing [11/01/06 22:25] Thanks all. [11/01/06 22:25] Bye [11/01/06 22:25] see you all later :) [11/01/06 22:25] bye [11/01/06 22:25] Thanks you guys. [11/01/06 22:25] ciao all [11/01/06 22:25] bye! [11/01/06 22:25] ciao [11/01/06 22:25] *** MartinRaabe (~innop2@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:25] bye! [11/01/06 22:25] what about debian packages [11/01/06 22:25] thank to all, bye [11/01/06 22:25] Thanks all, and bye [11/01/06 22:25] SvenDowideit: ^ [11/01/06 22:25] Bye bye [11/01/06 22:26] thanks all [11/01/06 22:26] byw [11/01/06 22:26] bye [11/01/06 22:26] bye all. and thanks. [11/01/06 22:26] *** pharvey (~csirac@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:26] Shall I append the log of this channel to the topic tonight? [11/01/06 22:26] this was a very effective meeting [11/01/06 22:26] IngoWolf ya? [11/01/06 22:26] *** bthale (90bc181a@gateway/web/freenode/***) has quit: Quit: Page closed [11/01/06 22:26] *** tsnfoo (~tsnfoo@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:26] uebera||: yes, please [11/01/06 22:26] ok [11/01/06 22:26] *** NynkeFokma (~nynke@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:26] has anyone taken minutes/logs? [11/01/06 22:26] I have a log, will append it. [11/01/06 22:26] SvenDowideit: I just installed from your repo, but it is 1.0.10 [11/01/06 22:27] gmc and uebera|| took logs [11/01/06 22:27] IngoWolf yep [11/01/06 22:27] SvenDowideit: at least an update, but what about 1.1.2? [11/01/06 22:27] when you publish these logs: please make sure there are no emails or phone numbers in the logs. please clear it from these.. [11/01/06 22:27] my debian repo always lags [11/01/06 22:27] MichaelDaum: Sure. [11/01/06 22:27] I will put together some "official" notes for the files. [11/01/06 22:27] its intended to be like debian, really quite stable [11/01/06 22:27] OliverKrueger: thank you [11/01/06 22:27] *** MTempest (~chatzilla@foswiki/developer/mtempest) has quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101206122310] [11/01/06 22:27] SvenDowideit: well, true debian style - Its done when its done. [11/01/06 22:27] I have some written notes as well, if you need them [11/01/06 22:27] I am thinking about making a foswiki-core-next pkg that will be updated faster [11/01/06 22:27] (based on theses logs and my memory) [11/01/06 22:28] OliverKrueger, thanks for the good work on the financial matters. really appreciated. [11/01/06 22:28] uw [11/01/06 22:28] SvenDowideit: I know a lot of people waiting desperately for a more convenient debian solution [11/01/06 22:28] and 1.0.10 doesn't work? [11/01/06 22:28] :} [11/01/06 22:29] SvenDowideit: it does well, but... [11/01/06 22:29] Oliver, when will the bank account be established, don't want to have to use paypal next year [11/01/06 22:29] * IngoWolf exits to #foswiki [11/01/06 22:30] FranzJosefGigler: the application to the bank is already out. We are waiting for a reply from the bank. [11/01/06 22:30] OliverKrueger: which bank did you choose? [11/01/06 22:30] great to hear oliver [11/01/06 22:30] IngoWolf: GLS here in Germany. [11/01/06 22:30] They have the lowest fees (for non-profit associations) [11/01/06 22:31] OliverKrueger: aha kannte ich noch gar nicht, liest sich gut. [11/01/06 22:31] so this accounting auditing shouldn't be a great thingi, no need for blames [11/01/06 22:32] *** CDot (~crawford@foswiki/developer/cdot) has quit: Quit: Leaving. [11/01/06 22:33] sven: me waiting for 1.1.x on debian too! ;-) [11/01/06 22:34] * OliverKrueger moves to #foswiki. [11/01/06 22:34] *** OliverKrueger (~okrueger@foswiki/developer/ok) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:34] *** MartinRowe (~MartinRow@***) has quit: Quit: Leaving. [11/01/06 22:35] *** wbniv (~wbniv@foswiki/developer/WillNorris) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: "Konversation terminated!" [11/01/06 22:35] * uebera|| starts checking the log [11/01/06 22:35] ----- cut here :) ----- [11/01/06 22:35] *** FranzJosefGigler (2e4a6449@gateway/web/freenode/***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:36] *** andreli (~chatzilla@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:37] *** IngoWolf (~ingo@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: "Konversation terminated!" [11/01/06 22:38] *** StephaneLenclud (~sl@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:39] *** leik (~lek@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: "Ex-Chat" [11/01/06 22:39] *** MartinCleaver (~martincle@foswiki/developer/MartinCleaver) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:39] *** IngoK (~chatzilla@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:41] Remember when posting the log to remove the email addresses of the vote counters so they do not get spammed later [11/01/06 22:43] Lavr: I'm on it. [11/01/06 22:44] But thx for the reminder. :) [11/01/06 22:44] *** ArthurClemens (~arthur@***) has left channel #foswiki-assembly: #foswiki-assembly [11/01/06 22:44] Thanks for doing minutes. We must remember next year to have a minute taker on the agenda together with the vote counters [11/01/06 22:45] yw. and, yes. [11/01/06 22:51] ERC> /names [11/01/06 22:51] *** Users on #foswiki-assembly: terceiro Babar gmc @MichaelDaum @SvenDowideit @uebera|| @Lavr