(06:55:20 AM) Lynnwood__: Thanks JulianLevens
(06:59:32 AM) Lavr [~Lavr@foswiki/developer/Lavr] entered the room.
(06:59:46 AM) Lavr: Good morning/evening
(06:59:57 AM) uebera||: Good afternoon, Lavr. :)
(07:00:05 AM) gac410: Hi Kenneth
(07:00:21 AM) JulianLevens: Hi all
(07:00:54 AM) Lynnwood__: Greetings all. Let's get started.
(07:01:04 AM) OliverKrueger: MoinMoin.
(07:01:28 AM) Lynnwood__: Can we get confirmation that we have a Quorum?
(07:01:42 AM) JulianLevens: https://foswiki.org/Community/AgendaEighthGeneralAssembly
(07:02:27 AM) Lynnwood__: Can get a show of who present is representing other members?
(07:02:50 AM) ***OliverKrueger is representing only himself.
(07:03:04 AM) Lavr: Lavr is only KennethLavrsen
(07:03:10 AM) MichaelDaum: Hi all
(07:03:29 AM) Lynnwood__: While we're at it, can we get a volunteer for note taker?
(07:03:35 AM) gac410: gac410 is representing only himself - George Clark
(07:03:44 AM) ***Lynnwood__ representing self
(07:03:48 AM) ***uebera|| is only representing himself (Markus Ueberall)
(07:03:57 AM) Lynnwood__: (Lynnwood Brown)
(07:04:00 AM) JulianLevens: ditto
(07:04:38 AM) cdot [~crawford@foswiki/developer/cdot] entered the room.
(07:04:48 AM) Lynnwood__: welcome cdot
(07:04:55 AM) uebera||: The note taker arrived. :o)
(07:04:57 AM) cdot: morning Lynnwood!
(07:05:31 AM) Lynnwood__: Anyone... note taker?
(07:05:47 AM) gac410: okay I'll volunteer 
(07:05:57 AM) JulianLevens: We just need to capture logs
(07:06:01 AM) Lynnwood__: thank-you gac410
(07:06:11 AM) Lynnwood__: pretty much...
(07:06:16 AM) Lavr: I am in two meetings in parallel here. IRC + Hangouts video conference. So if I am slow then you know why
(07:06:40 AM) cdot: Lavr: we're used to you being slow >:-)
(07:06:48 AM) Lynnwood__: ok, i'm pretty sure we have quorum but could someone who knows the numbers for sure confirm for the record?
(07:07:00 AM) Lavr: I knew I would get that when I hit ENTER ;-)
(07:07:09 AM) OliverKrueger: no number required.
(07:07:24 AM) Lynnwood__: ok
(07:07:28 AM) JulianLevens: The articles only state the the call for the GA was in the proper form. Number of members not applicable
(07:07:29 AM) OliverKrueger: We have a quorum, if the invitation was sent out in time.
(07:07:50 AM) Lynnwood__: good. proceeding.
(07:08:39 AM) Lynnwood__: Item II, Election of vote counters. Message added just prior to meeting suggest that we won't need vote so no vote takeers.
(07:09:05 AM) Lynnwood__: If no objections, we'll move along.
(07:09:26 AM) Lynnwood__: III, Introductions of new members.
(07:09:43 AM) Lynnwood__: We welcome back Colas Nahaboo.
(07:09:47 AM) ***cdot votes for Colas for POTUS
(07:09:54 AM) Lavr: +1 Welcome back
(07:09:56 AM) OliverKrueger: \o/
(07:10:03 AM) MichaelDaum: wasn't colas already a member?
(07:10:11 AM) Lynnwood__: We'll take any POTUS
(07:10:23 AM) cdot: he forgot to pay his dues, so got excommunicated
(07:10:29 AM) Lynnwood__: lapsed temporarily
(07:10:50 AM) MichaelDaum: there are a couple more that are ready to be excommunicated
(07:10:56 AM) JulianLevens: He should be attending this meeting
(07:11:17 AM) JulianLevens: FranzJosef and Sven will be cut-off
(07:11:30 AM) JulianLevens: MartinRowe gracefully bowed out
(07:11:48 AM) MichaelDaum: https://foswiki.org/Community/CurrentFoswikiMembers
(07:11:57 AM) Lynnwood__: thanks MichaelDaum
(07:12:23 AM) ***OliverKrueger added numbers to the finance web, but did not curate the CurrentFoswikiMembers list.
(07:12:39 AM) Lynnwood__: Not a pretty picture though. We need to turn that trend around this year,.
(07:12:39 AM) OliverKrueger: Hopefully somebody else updated that list.
(07:12:46 AM) ***cdot thinks it's a bit pointless analysing the membership - except to point out that the project is healthy in terms of users and contributors
(07:12:47 AM) MichaelDaum: probably not
(07:13:04 AM) JulianLevens: Although Colas has now brought all his dues up to date, they were late and he missed recent GAs
(07:13:05 AM) gac410: Is there anyone here attending via FoswikiOnSlack  .. for the minutes
(07:13:38 AM) MichaelDaum: nope. nobody is on the slack channel except me
(07:13:51 AM) gac410: okay thanks
(07:14:22 AM) cdot: membership of the GA is really just a tick box. There are contributors and users - like vrurg and VickiBrown who could be recruited if we deemed it necessary.
(07:14:47 AM) Lynnwood__: Good perspective there cdot.
(07:14:48 AM) ***OliverKrueger made a last minute check on paypal and the bank account. No further fees arrived in the last two days.
(07:15:11 AM) Lavr: We get a problem when we are less people than board member posts + auditors
(07:15:13 AM) JulianLevens: I think the new board should consider relaxing the membership rules a little
(07:15:49 AM) JulianLevens: After this GA we will have 9 members, we are OK for another, but recruiting one or two more would be good
(07:15:58 AM) MichaelDaum: JulianLevens, arent they very easy already?
(07:16:28 AM) MichaelDaum: only thing we could do is to allow a new membership between gas
(07:16:43 AM) Lynnwood__: Probably would not hurt inviting anyone who is showing up on irc or other channels with some regularity to join. It might not occur to them otherwise.
(07:16:57 AM) JulianLevens: Yes, but do we insist on GA attendance?
(07:17:09 AM) OliverKrueger: MichaelDaum: According to the articles a member has to attend to at least every second GA.
(07:17:16 AM) MichaelDaum: they are appointed at the GA, afaik
(07:17:16 AM) JulianLevens: Do we alllow a bit more grace on late dues?
(07:17:35 AM) MichaelDaum: y good point
(07:17:58 AM) JulianLevens: Perversely, saying attend every GA (proxy is OK) might be easier to manage
(07:18:45 AM) Lynnwood__: Suggestions are in notes for board to consider during coming year.
(07:19:05 AM) Lynnwood__: Any other comments on members? If not, moving on to IV. Election of the of the Board of Directors and substitute members.
(07:19:06 AM) JulianLevens: We are now in a regular Annual GA, when we started we had them more often
(07:19:14 AM) cdot: JulianLevens: +1, though one person turning up to the GA with proxies for every other member might not be productive ;-)
(07:19:28 AM) cdot: or, might be the most productive approach
(07:20:25 AM) cdot: Right now the GA has no goals beyond "keep the project ticking along, and protect our IP". Right?
(07:20:34 AM) JulianLevens: Correct
(07:20:45 AM) OliverKrueger: yes
(07:21:05 AM) Lavr: Yes. Protecting IP and making sure we have funding for our site foswiki.org
(07:21:28 AM) cdot: so long as that's the case, I don't see that compulsory attendance is needed
(07:21:38 AM) Lavr: Agree
(07:21:39 AM) cdot: subscriptions, on the other hand,.....
(07:21:45 AM) OliverKrueger: Well, that might have changed. We got a bigger donation. The GA might has to think about the usage.
(07:22:31 AM) cdot: yes, indeed. Change the constitution to allow calling an EGM in the event of needing to discuss disbursement of funds.
(07:23:01 AM) ***cdot checks the constitution; it may already be written that way
(07:23:05 AM) uebera||: don't we have this already?
(07:23:23 AM) uebera||: See §9 3)
(07:23:24 AM) JulianLevens: Pretty sure EGMs are in there
(07:24:03 AM) Lavr: I think the 2K will be nice to have when the f.o server crashes and we have to buy a new machine
(07:24:06 AM) JulianLevens: The danger of not having compulsory attendance is that nobody turns up
(07:24:11 AM) uebera||: (https://foswiki.org/pub/Community/AssociationArticles/Foswiki_Association_Articles_2014-03-26.pdf, pg. 7)
(07:24:41 AM) JulianLevens: Compulsory at annual GA not EGMs
(07:24:55 AM) uebera||: Lavr: We're renting a VServer--if the hardware breaks, it's not our concern.
(07:26:02 AM) Lavr: Then it is nice to have money for the rent. At the moment we have so few members that bank fees almost eat it all. That is why I have donated +90 the past two years to make sure we have a little bit on the account
(07:26:44 AM) OliverKrueger: Lavr: Thanks for that.
(07:26:45 AM) Lynnwood__: Thanks for that, Lavr!
(07:26:45 AM) JulianLevens: True, but we are currently good for server and accounting/banking costs to survive 10 years
(07:26:51 AM) cdot: Y. SO relax the rules on membership (I'll +1 that, they are currently a bit OTT)
(07:27:23 AM) cdot: and proactively invite people to join and/or contribute
(07:27:28 AM) JulianLevens: +1
(07:27:31 AM) OliverKrueger: +1
(07:27:35 AM) Lynnwood__: +1
(07:27:36 AM) gac410: +1
(07:27:42 AM) MichaelDaum: +1
(07:27:47 AM) uebera||: w.r.t. relaxing the attendance requirement, +1
(07:27:47 AM) Lavr: I think you should be able to join the association at any time but it needs to be confirmed at the GA before you can vote at next GA just to protect against hostile take over
(07:28:00 AM) cdot: Lavr: good idea
(07:28:07 AM) Lavr: and I vote for no attendance requirement
(07:28:07 AM) Lynnwood__: yes
(07:28:46 AM) JulianLevens: Does that apply from this GA?
(07:29:04 AM) uebera||: excluding this one, I'd say.
(07:29:29 AM) cdot: if we change the articles of association, do we have to go through the loop with the BZSt?
(07:29:29 AM) Lynnwood__: I would assume that would need to put out any proposal in advance for modifying articles. Address next year, or perhaps call a special meeting during the year?
(07:29:42 AM) JulianLevens: Ok, but with current rules colas will immediately lapse
(07:30:16 AM) Lynnwood__: JulianLevens - I was noticing same thing. We'll be crushed. ;-)
(07:30:22 AM) gac410: right,  this needs a change to section 5 of the articles.
(07:30:42 AM) uebera||: JulianLevens: Why? He has to attend the next GA only.
(07:30:54 AM) cdot: repeat; do changes to the articles have to go through the loop with the tax office?
(07:31:29 AM) OliverKrueger: cdot: yes. not the tax office but the district court.
(07:31:32 AM) JulianLevens: Hm, yes uebera||, I suppose that's true
(07:31:34 AM) Lavr: As long as we do not change the purpose of the association it should have no impact on tax and status
(07:31:52 AM) ***Lynnwood__ agrees with Lavr
(07:32:30 AM) JulianLevens: I would hope we can find away to have a by-law/amendment without changing the articles
(07:32:45 AM) OliverKrueger: If we change the articles here, any member can challenge the change.
(07:33:03 AM) ***Lynnwood__ is looking for any requirement for prior notice of proposals to modify articles.
(07:33:06 AM) OliverKrueger: We can change by-laws at any time.
(07:33:10 AM) JulianLevens: Apart from colas we are all here
(07:33:16 AM) Lynnwood__: ok
(07:33:28 AM) uebera||: OliverKrueger: But they cannot override the articles, and §5 is very explict about the rules in place.
(07:34:01 AM) uebera||: I don't see a way not to change §5.
(07:34:12 AM) Lavr: We cannot change the articles today. We can ask the board to being it up at the next GA. And for the membership it is all symbolic of adding people to a web list. We can do that so it looks like you are a member but in reality legally you are not
(07:34:23 AM) cdot: JulianLevens: re: by-laws. No can do, they're not powerful enough. See section 13
(07:34:36 AM) JulianLevens: Shame
(07:35:06 AM) JulianLevens: We need 75% majority to change articles at a GA
(07:35:10 AM) Lavr: What is the court fee to register altered rules in Germany? Isn't just to send it in and pay the fee?
(07:35:31 AM) gac410: Terms of membership are explicit in the Articles, not the bylaws.     But as long as the purpose does not change,  they can be amended without going through the tax authority ... if I'm reading it right.
(07:35:54 AM) cdot: gac410: what are you reading?
(07:36:17 AM) OliverKrueger: gac410: you are correct.
(07:36:53 AM) gac410: Article 2 Paragraph 3. 
(07:37:22 AM) Lavr: I am on a hard stop in 23 mins so I suggest we get through the agenda with new board and budget now
(07:37:42 AM) Lynnwood__: ok.
(07:38:07 AM) Lynnwood__: We can return to viability of proposals for change to articles at the end.
(07:38:17 AM) OliverKrueger: +1
(07:38:23 AM) uebera||: +1
(07:38:24 AM) cdot: recommend we call an extraordinary GA for 2 months time to amend section 5, as per section 9.6
(07:38:30 AM) Lynnwood__: if no objections, mopving on to IV. Election of the of the Board of Directors and substitute members
(07:38:44 AM) gac410: cdot:  seconded...
(07:38:48 AM) Lynnwood__: i was too quick...
(07:39:08 AM) Lynnwood__: Cdot - can we take that as a motion?
(07:39:13 AM) cdot: aye
(07:39:19 AM) Lynnwood__: we have a second.
(07:39:26 AM) Lavr: +1
(07:39:33 AM) OliverKrueger: +1
(07:39:36 AM) JulianLevens: +1
(07:39:47 AM) Lynnwood__: +1
(07:39:50 AM) uebera||: +1
(07:39:50 AM) MichaelDaum: +1
(07:40:08 AM) JulianLevens: Unanimous :)
(07:40:23 AM) Lynnwood__: lovely
(07:40:26 AM) Lynnwood__: Ok, motion passed
(07:40:35 AM) Lynnwood__: IV. Election of the of the Board of Directors and substitute members
(07:40:42 AM) uebera||: rmeember, We need a specific proposal before sending out the invitation for this
(07:41:21 AM) cdot: uebera||: I will undertake to word a rewrite of section 5, though it will perforce be in English.
(07:41:25 AM) Lynnwood__: uebera|| - i assume that will be responsibility of board. they can draft it and invite comments before formally putting it out.
(07:41:33 AM) Lynnwood__: There aren't that many of us...
(07:41:41 AM) gac410: sounds good to me
(07:41:42 AM) ***cdot backpedals rapidly
(07:41:42 AM) Lynnwood__: we could fit in a pub booth
(07:41:47 AM) Lynnwood__: which would be lovely
(07:42:08 AM) ***OliverKrueger proposes uebera|| as a new member of the board.
(07:42:25 AM) uebera||: hideous.
(07:42:27 AM) ***cdot seconds OliverKrueger
(07:42:41 AM) Lynnwood__: Thanks for nomination. We needed 3
(07:42:52 AM) MichaelDaum: take me
(07:43:02 AM) Lynnwood__: uebera|| - do you accept nomination?
(07:43:14 AM) Lynnwood__: MichaelDaum - take you where?
(07:43:18 AM) JulianLevens: I propose MichaelDaum to be reelected to the board
(07:43:21 AM) uebera||: I accept, but have to tell you that I won't have much time during the next three months.
(07:43:48 AM) cdot: uebera||: join the club. We are all busy, I suspect.
(07:43:51 AM) JulianLevens: uebera|| last year there were a grand total of 0 meetings
(07:43:58 AM) JulianLevens: uebera|| last year there were a grand total of 0 board meetings
(07:44:00 AM) Lynnwood__: uebera|| - i can't imagine it will require much time, even with proposed change on table.
(07:44:01 AM) ***OliverKrueger seconds JulianLevens
(07:44:11 AM) Lavr: Clap clap Michael + uebera
(07:44:47 AM) Lynnwood__: Do we have further nominations or comments on such?
(07:45:01 AM) ***gac410 is confused.   According to agenda,  there are 2 up for reelection.  cdot standing down, But we elect three?   
(07:45:37 AM) Lynnwood__: ah. i see uebera|| was already nominated.
(07:45:47 AM) Lynnwood__: So we need a third?
(07:45:52 AM) cdot: no
(07:45:54 AM) gac410: it says "We elect three board members this time with these members standing down two-year term "        Who is the third?
(07:45:59 AM) JulianLevens: We are electing, uebera|| and MD only
(07:46:02 AM) OliverKrueger: We do not elect three. Just the proposals need two ppl to second.
(07:46:21 AM) OliverKrueger: Or am I wrong?
(07:46:23 AM) gac410: So error in the agenda? 
(07:46:36 AM) JulianLevens: That's a mistake in agenda carried over from last one
(07:46:45 AM) MichaelDaum: ah ok
(07:46:49 AM) OliverKrueger: ok
(07:46:53 AM) Lynnwood__: ok
(07:46:59 AM) Lynnwood__: clears that up...
(07:47:05 AM) OliverKrueger: Vote by acclamation? ;)
(07:47:11 AM) MichaelDaum: it needs three suporters for a new member
(07:47:12 AM) Lavr: Hurray
(07:47:16 AM) gac410: so 2 members elected.   2 proposed.   We can do it by acclamation 
(07:47:40 AM) Lynnwood__: Yes, i believe so.
(07:48:05 AM) JulianLevens: Clap
(07:48:09 AM) Lynnwood__: If there are no objections, I say that we declare it so.
(07:48:16 AM) ***gac410 moves to accept MichaelDaum and MarkusUeberall for a 2 year term.
(07:48:24 AM) OliverKrueger: officially not, but who cares. ;)
(07:48:26 AM) JulianLevens: seconded
(07:48:44 AM) Lynnwood__: ok, let's show votes
(07:48:48 AM) Lynnwood__: +1
(07:48:51 AM) gac410: +1
(07:48:52 AM) JulianLevens: +1
(07:48:52 AM) OliverKrueger: +1
(07:48:52 AM) Lavr: +1
(07:49:45 AM) gac410: any more votes?
(07:49:50 AM) Lynnwood__: Big thanks to MichaelDaum for continuing on board and uebera|| for joining.
(07:50:08 AM) gac410: seconded  ;)
(07:50:22 AM) OliverKrueger: (officially all elections have to be secret, but since every member is here, there is nobody to challenge the election).
(07:50:23 AM) Lynnwood__: I think we have enough. if anyone is naping, they can note in later.
(07:50:29 AM) Lynnwood__: Let's move on to V. Non-Board Auditors / Financial Report
(07:51:01 AM) MichaelDaum: thanks, guys
(07:51:21 AM) OliverKrueger: congrats MichaelDaum and uebera||
(07:51:24 AM) uebera||: thx
(07:51:46 AM) uebera||: Ad V., I can repeat what I stated earlier: "Based on the complete set of statements/invoices/transaction lists of the GLS bank/Paypal accounts made available to me in electronic/scanned form, I have checked that the accounting has been done correctly. The balances per beginning and end of 2016 for both forementioned accounts are indeed correct. I hereby approve of the financial statement."
(07:52:35 AM) Lavr: I have also given my written approval. everything looks fine. Money is where it is supposed to be. So approval with Thanks
(07:52:44 AM) cdot: clap
(07:52:45 AM) JulianLevens: clap clap
(07:52:47 AM) Lynnwood__: Do we have any comments on the financail statement beyond the statements of auditors?
(07:52:52 AM) OliverKrueger: thanks uebera|| and Lavr for the work.
(07:52:56 AM) MichaelDaum: clap
(07:53:04 AM) gac410: Move to accept..
(07:53:13 AM) uebera||: Lynnwood__: We need to take a look at the years 2011..2014, though.
(07:53:32 AM) uebera||: No audits were performed. Question is whether this exonerates the people in charge.
(07:53:36 AM) JulianLevens: Why? There were approved in earlier GAs
(07:53:50 AM) OliverKrueger: The docco is missing.
(07:53:56 AM) Lavr: We audited also last year and the year before
(07:54:00 AM) uebera||: They were? I went over the minutes, but did not find anything. Must have overlooked this.
(07:54:19 AM) Lynnwood__: i sure thought we did...
(07:54:23 AM) Lavr: We did
(07:54:51 AM) Lynnwood__: Any other discussion needed on prior year financial statement?
(07:55:10 AM) JulianLevens: I have no concerns
(07:55:22 AM) Lynnwood__: Since gac410 made motion, can we have a second?
(07:55:27 AM) uebera||: My bad. At leas the 2012 meeting minutes contain a section regarding this. Might want to copy this to the Finance subweb.
(07:56:02 AM) Lavr: Yes. we put the statement somewhere else. But it was a good idea the way you did it and I put mine below.
(07:56:44 AM) ***Lynnwood__ looking for second on motion to accept Financial statement for 2016.
(07:57:08 AM) cdot: seconded
(07:57:25 AM) Lynnwood__: Thanks cdot
(07:57:39 AM) Lynnwood__: show vote by "clap" or +1
(07:57:44 AM) OliverKrueger: +1
(07:57:44 AM) JulianLevens: +1
(07:57:45 AM) gac410: +1
(07:57:45 AM) MichaelDaum: +1
(07:57:48 AM) Lavr: +1
(07:57:51 AM) uebera||: +1
(07:57:53 AM) Lynnwood__: +1
(07:58:29 AM) OliverKrueger: We could dicuss the need of our non-profit status. It needs work every 3 years but brings no benefits (as far as I can see).
(07:58:46 AM) Lavr: uebera||  for the record. 2015 audit  https://foswiki.org/Community/Finance/FinancialStatement2015
(07:58:57 AM) Lynnwood__: Looking ahead, we need volunteers or nominations for two auditors for the next year
(07:59:15 AM) Lavr: I can audit again
(07:59:19 AM) Lynnwood__: Election of two auditors for the next year
(07:59:25 AM) JulianLevens: The auditors can only be two of cdot, Lavr or OliverKrueger
(07:59:25 AM) Lynnwood__: Thanks Lavr
(07:59:41 AM) uebera||: Lavr: I went over these, but https://foswiki.org/Community/Finance/FinancialStatement2011 .. 2014 just show "to be done"
(07:59:49 AM) cdot: happy to be an auditor.
(07:59:51 AM) OliverKrueger: I would volunteer, but I already have all the accounts under my control.
(07:59:53 AM) Lynnwood__: Thanks for clarifying JulianLevens - I was wondering who was left.
(08:00:08 AM) Lynnwood__: Ok cdot and Lavr volunteer
(08:00:12 AM) OliverKrueger: Would be better if someone else checks me. ;)
(08:00:17 AM) gac410: I move to accept CDot and Lavr as auditors for the upcoming year.
(08:00:26 AM) JulianLevens: Seconded
(08:00:28 AM) OliverKrueger: +1
(08:00:28 AM) MichaelDaum: +1
(08:00:29 AM) Lynnwood__: great
(08:00:30 AM) uebera||: +1
(08:00:31 AM) Lynnwood__: +1
(08:00:42 AM) Lynnwood__: we're a meeting machine
(08:00:54 AM) gac410: +1
(08:01:06 AM) Lynnwood__: VI. Proposals received from the members for Bylaws
(08:01:24 AM) gac410: were there any?
(08:01:29 AM) JulianLevens: None listed
(08:01:36 AM) Lynnwood__: I don't think we need a proiposal to act on cdot's suggestion.
(08:01:47 AM) Lynnwood__: So no current proposals.
(08:01:59 AM) Lynnwood__: Moving ahead...
(08:02:11 AM) Lynnwood__: VII. Misc
(08:02:32 AM) Lynnwood__: Time for next year's GA
(08:03:01 AM) Lynnwood__: Date/time proposed: 6th April 2018, 11:00 UTC
(08:03:11 AM) OliverKrueger: +1
(08:03:13 AM) gac410: +1
(08:03:24 AM) MichaelDaum: +1 ... was going to propose exactly that date
(08:03:24 AM) Lynnwood__: Are there any objectives? If not, show vote of consent.
(08:03:35 AM) uebera||: +1
(08:03:37 AM) gac410: objections? 
(08:03:52 AM) Lynnwood__: +1
(08:03:54 AM) Lavr: +1
(08:03:58 AM) Lynnwood__: yes. thanks gac410
(08:04:07 AM) Lynnwood__: slip of the fingers...
(08:04:32 AM) JulianLevens: +1
(08:04:37 AM) Lynnwood__: ok... with that...
(08:04:38 AM) cdot: fine with me
(08:04:39 AM) Lynnwood__: VIII. Closing
(08:04:46 AM) OliverKrueger: +1
(08:04:52 AM) OliverKrueger: ;)
(08:04:57 AM) Lynnwood__: motion to close 2017 GA?
(08:05:02 AM) cdot: slick, Lynnwood, very slick ;-)
(08:05:07 AM) gac410: so moved
(08:05:09 AM) cdot: seconded
(08:05:12 AM) JulianLevens: +1
(08:05:13 AM) uebera||: +1
(08:05:14 AM) MichaelDaum: :)
(08:05:16 AM) Lynnwood__: +1
(08:05:18 AM) Lavr: Well conducted meeting. Thanks
(08:05:21 AM) Lynnwood__: :-)
(08:05:32 AM) cdot: cheers all. We're getting better at it!
(08:05:42 AM) uebera||: No, last year, we managed to finish earlier.
(08:05:46 AM) MichaelDaum: added the next ga to the fw cal
(08:05:55 AM) cdot: MichaelDaum: facebook event?
(08:05:58 AM) JulianLevens: Excellent
(08:06:08 AM) Lynnwood__: Thanks MichaelDaum
(08:06:17 AM) MichaelDaum: cdot, gona do that one too
(08:06:23 AM) cdot: :-)
(08:06:36 AM) Lynnwood__: I like idea of event, since we can't arrange meeting in pub
(08:07:15 AM) uebera||: Do we have a public CalDAV server which can be used w/ Thunderbird? Should we install one at one point?
(08:07:30 AM) cdot: uebera||: you can use google calendar
(08:07:40 AM) OliverKrueger: a whole CalDAV server for a single entry each year? ;)
(08:08:08 AM) uebera||: We can use it to remind people to pay for their memberships (only 6 weeks until the end of the year...)
(08:08:33 AM) Lynnwood__: if, for some reason, we need one, i think i have one... (haven't used it in years)
(08:09:41 AM) gac410: Thunderbird will connect to a google calendar, so no need for CalDAV  for that anyway.